Entrance to Heaven

Betsy · Post by **Betsy** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:30 pm

I wasn't sure whether to put this in the "Science" Category, or the "Religion" Category but here it is.

A well-intending Baptist minister sent this to me, claiming that these photos were taken by the Hubble Telescope (some time last year, he said when I asked) -- he couldn't remember how many light years away it is, but it's the furthest galaxy that the Hubble can see. I said, sorry but these are probably fakes done in photoshop, he SWORE it was real (because someone told him so). So, I'm putting it up to my trusty truth and fact finders to see what's going on here...

okay here it is, the whole big galaxy thingy:

[img]WHIRLPOOL%20GALAXY%20X.jpg[/img]

Now, in the nucleus of the big swirly thing, look what they've discovered....could it be the entrance to heaven?

[img]WHRLPOOL%20GALAXY%20NUCLEUS.jpg[/img]

Betsy · Post by **Betsy** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:41 pm

well, that didn't frigging work, so I've emailed the photos to a more able user. hopefully they'll be posted soon.

and, while you're at it you guys, could you change the name of the thread to "entrance to heaven?"

tanks a rot,
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Doug · Post by **Doug** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:59 pm

DOUG
Is this it?

Post by **Savonarola** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:43 pm

Betsy, you probably want to check out the BBCode Guide on inserting images: http://fayfreethinkers.com/forums/faq.php?mode=bbcode#9

Also, for future reference, you are able to edit your own titles, if I'm not mistaken.

Post by **Dardedar** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:07 pm

DAR
Here is a picture of earth taken from the Hebrew space telescope:

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Betsy (not signed in) · Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:07 pm

Doug, that's the same general idea, but not the same photos...

the photos were emailed to me, so they're not on a website that I know of...??

Post by **Savonarola** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:12 pm

Betsy (not signed in) wrote:the photos were emailed to me, so they're not on a website that I know of...??

If the other person you sent the pictures to is unable to get them posted, feel free to email them to me, and I'll put them up.

Post by **Dardedar** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:19 pm

Found your pictures online Betsy:
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Here is your first one:

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Here is your second one:
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DAR
Pretty pictures, I don't see the connection to an "entrance to heaven." I do think the Hebrew picture is pretty pretty accurate though. For the Bronze age that is....

D.

Betsy · Post by **Betsy** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:04 pm

the little blue circle with something that looks like someone -- maybe even Jesus -- standing there welcoming you with open arms is the very center of the big swirly thing in the first picture.

Post by **Dardedar** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:17 pm

Oh that's definitely Jesus alright. Looks like he may still be swing'in on the cross even. Never mind that this actual object may be many millions of light years across.

Oh, and there is the problem that when Jesus left the earth 2,000 years ago or so, even if he was hauling ass at the speed of light, he wouldn't even be out of our gallaxy yet. Sigh....

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I realized I was God when I was praying suddenly and realized I was talking to myself.” --Peter O’Toole, Parade magazine, 4/27/03
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Actual photograph!

Post by **Dardedar** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:25 pm

All 100% AUTHENTIC:

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Can you see the Jesus here?:
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These people can:
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Obviously, I have the day off today....

Hey, we're almost to a thousand posts!

Tamara · Post by **Tamara** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:25 am

I think the picture above the last pair of pics looks more like Buddha than Jesus. I see a fat little face just down and to the left of where the supposed Jesus face is. Or maybe it is Jesus after he pigged out at the last supper.

Doug · Post by **Doug** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:14 pm

Betsy wrote:

the little blue circle with something that looks like someone -- maybe even Jesus -- standing there welcoming you with open arms is the very center of the big swirly thing in the first picture.

DOUG
The "someone" doesn't have "arms" evenly across the body. It sure doesn't look like a person with outstretched arms. It is not an "t" formation, but rather more of an "X" formation.

Maybe Jesus is doing the jitterbug? Then the posture is accurate. But where is his partner?

On the other hand, note how we put it one way, but if we see it without assuming one part is "up," since it is in space and there is no "up," is it Jesus doing something else?

Also, the blue thing with a dark space in it (the "Jesus") is about 100 light-years across. It looks like an "X" because we are viewing edge-on, like viewing the edge of a frisbee. It we looked at it face-on, the "X" shape would disappear. Also, the dark center is probably gas going around a black hole about a million times more dense than our sun.

blackholes.stardate.org/.../ factsheet.php?id=4

The dual galaxies in the first picture are known as deep space object M51, nicknamed "The Whirlpool Galaxy." You can find it at Hubble.org. The big spiral is NGC 5194, and a smaller spiral is NGC 5195.

Doug · Post by **Doug** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:46 pm

DOUG
Wow, is this Siddhartha Gautama, the Buddha, inside supernova SN1987?

OK, maybe it's ET.

Post by **Dardedar** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:42 am

DAR
Ring of fire? God's burning anus?

Betsy · Post by **Betsy** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:19 am

Maybe Jesus is doing a cartwheel. Ever think about THAT? Huh? And who says Jesus can't travel at the speed of light? He's JESUS, for god's sake. He can do ANYTHING, even make himself a million miles tall, just so we can see him with our telescope.

Post by **Dardedar** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:26 am

Betsy wrote:Maybe Jesus is doing a cartwheel. Ever think about THAT? Huh? And who says Jesus can't travel at the speed of light? He's JESUS, for god's sake.

DAR
Oh yes, I am sure he can go that fast (of he stretches his arms out striaght like superman does), but he can't go faster than that. Them's the rules.

BET
He can do ANYTHING, even make himself a million miles tall, just so we can see him with our telescope.

DAR
I know you are rounding Betsy, but it is interesting to note that if this area is 100 lights years across as Doug says, then this Jesus is actually:

586,569,600,000,000 miles across.

That's 586 trillion miles.

That 586 MILLION times larger than one million.

That's a really big Jesus!

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Betsy · Post by **Betsy** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:22 pm

oh yeah? well maybe it's not jesus. maybe it's your grandma.

Betsy · Post by **Betsy** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:26 pm

okay, I know that was stupid, but I was just playing devil's advocate - or in this case, jesus' advocate.

I posted this because it was sent to me by a man who is a Baptist minister, and they were sent to him by another minister, who told him they were actual photographs and they are all excited because they like the magical idea that it could be the entrance to heaven.

It wouldn't do any good to argue with them, because they would just say that anything's possible with God and therefore, your facts about time and space are not meaningful to them.

Where did you find the photos online?

Post by **Dardedar** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:36 pm

Betsy wrote:Where did you find the photos online?

DAR
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Compo ... ool.h2.jpg

And:

http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hu/db/1992 ... ts/web.jpg

D.

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